Love this convo--you guys are my favorite analytical edge of this conversation if BAP and Yarvin are the bloody center.
Wanted to comment on the point of "will companies stop their "woke" push." Astral thought it was coming to head while Isaac thought it would peter out. I live in Oakland CA and the ideologies are so deep in the people that they are not going away. People of all ages are true believers and they are raising their children as such.
Some of the truly contradictory points will fade, but the core is Anti-Capitalist (without a clear definition of capitalism), Anti-imperialist, and Anti-American. It is important to take the critiques seriously, and if we believe what we say we believe, make the arguments for an enriching capital market system, a justified international policy of strength, and a national identity that all citizens can get on board with. I think you both agree that race war is not the answer, and to that end we need to invite the other races (especially black Americans) back into the tent. There is so much hate for white Americans, America, and anyone doing well (Asians), that we are in a tinderbox that is the urban parallel to the Montana piece. If we don't bridge the divide, we will see crime and violence like we can't imagine and will make South Africa look like childsplay.
The trans stuff is a sideshow and ultimately self defeating. People grow up and have children and the truth comes out. If you remove your sex organs, there's not much risk of you being fruitful and multiplying. I have a trans aunt (who I care for) and she's definitely not having children.
You guys are brilliant and I'm glad you connected and are seriously testing and pushing the ideas forward.
Another excellent podcast! I think you could do a whole episode about how the current "white identity" was manufactured by the Left and woke capital for political purposes.
I did kind of disagree with your characterization of Bezos as an innovator and Musk as largely just salesman. Musk seems to have genuinely innovative ideas, incredible technical proficiency and business genius. Are electric cars and fully-reuseable rockets capable of flying people to Mars really less innovative than an online bookstore? Not to dunk on Bezos, he obviously executed the idea with ruthless efficiency but I just don't see him as having the same creativity as Musk. And on the salesman part, I really think Tesla and SpaceX's products sell themselves because they are far and away beyond any of their competition. Musk, if anything is a terrible salesman. Have you ever seen one of his inept Tesla demos? Conversely he's really in his element when he's talking tech details on manufacturing processes or rocket science.
Musk is an extremely talented individual but he's out of his element at this point and isn't the leader many want him to be. Tesla is only a business due to gov subsidies from ESG (woke) policies. It is the prime example of woke capitalism. You have to ask yourself why the left keeps shilling him money and it isn't cause his product is good. He can't pivot at this point because he'd be exposed as a fraud if he did. Cathie Wood is a prime example of this. Musk knows the technology isn't viable now or in the near future, but he for sure sells an idea better than anyone else because he keeps upping the ante at least until his bluff gets called. Which it will at some point.
Love this convo--you guys are my favorite analytical edge of this conversation if BAP and Yarvin are the bloody center.
Wanted to comment on the point of "will companies stop their "woke" push." Astral thought it was coming to head while Isaac thought it would peter out. I live in Oakland CA and the ideologies are so deep in the people that they are not going away. People of all ages are true believers and they are raising their children as such.
Some of the truly contradictory points will fade, but the core is Anti-Capitalist (without a clear definition of capitalism), Anti-imperialist, and Anti-American. It is important to take the critiques seriously, and if we believe what we say we believe, make the arguments for an enriching capital market system, a justified international policy of strength, and a national identity that all citizens can get on board with. I think you both agree that race war is not the answer, and to that end we need to invite the other races (especially black Americans) back into the tent. There is so much hate for white Americans, America, and anyone doing well (Asians), that we are in a tinderbox that is the urban parallel to the Montana piece. If we don't bridge the divide, we will see crime and violence like we can't imagine and will make South Africa look like childsplay.
The trans stuff is a sideshow and ultimately self defeating. People grow up and have children and the truth comes out. If you remove your sex organs, there's not much risk of you being fruitful and multiplying. I have a trans aunt (who I care for) and she's definitely not having children.
You guys are brilliant and I'm glad you connected and are seriously testing and pushing the ideas forward.
thank you for the Long and thoughtful comment, we live for this. race war is not the answer and its being stoked by the left
Indeed I think it’ll end, but not on its own. Because we defeat it.
Then everyone who partook in it will pretend they were against it at the time.
"So I graduated from law school and moved to LA to work for an agent in a house with 6 homos. By the way I'm Jewish."
You don't say.
Another excellent podcast! I think you could do a whole episode about how the current "white identity" was manufactured by the Left and woke capital for political purposes.
I did kind of disagree with your characterization of Bezos as an innovator and Musk as largely just salesman. Musk seems to have genuinely innovative ideas, incredible technical proficiency and business genius. Are electric cars and fully-reuseable rockets capable of flying people to Mars really less innovative than an online bookstore? Not to dunk on Bezos, he obviously executed the idea with ruthless efficiency but I just don't see him as having the same creativity as Musk. And on the salesman part, I really think Tesla and SpaceX's products sell themselves because they are far and away beyond any of their competition. Musk, if anything is a terrible salesman. Have you ever seen one of his inept Tesla demos? Conversely he's really in his element when he's talking tech details on manufacturing processes or rocket science.
Thanks for the episode. What is the name of the track at 1:05:00?
Musk is an extremely talented individual but he's out of his element at this point and isn't the leader many want him to be. Tesla is only a business due to gov subsidies from ESG (woke) policies. It is the prime example of woke capitalism. You have to ask yourself why the left keeps shilling him money and it isn't cause his product is good. He can't pivot at this point because he'd be exposed as a fraud if he did. Cathie Wood is a prime example of this. Musk knows the technology isn't viable now or in the near future, but he for sure sells an idea better than anyone else because he keeps upping the ante at least until his bluff gets called. Which it will at some point.