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Would love to hear you guys talk more sometime about why 2014 was such a pivotal year. I've noticed it too, and I've noticed this year come up a lot in sociological studies that aren't even related to each other.

It just seems like a hinge year in so many ways, and probably no coincidence that True Detective was the last show of its kind that we got before the sea change.

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Nailed it, great talk. Would love to hear y'all discuss The Bear. It's got the diversity casting, but all in all it's a fantastic show about what it takes to achieve aesthetic excellence and appropriate power hierarchies. To me, this is the kind of art that Isaac has been talking about.

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I haven’t watched either since they came out so don’t feel strongly one way or the other but great conversation

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