I've read Programmed to Kill, but not the Chickenhawk book.
I'm pleased that you called out the way the author of PTK seems to present the Henry Lee Lucas story so uncritically. That was pretty egregious, in my mind I'm convinced Lucas was a serial liar, it was bad enough it cast a lot of the other material (which im not as familiar with as I am the Lucas case) into a doubtful light. I almost quit the book because of that.
This was fantastic! Thank you sir. But… you don’t wanna go past two hours cause you’ll lose the audience? Well, dang, my last episode was five hours. Maybe I should tone it down.
According to Grok, The Night stalker killed 6 male victims.
“Richard Ramirez, the "Night Stalker," killed at least six male victims, based on detailed accounts:Vincent Zazzara (64, killed March 27, 1985)
Bill Doi (66, killed May 14, 1985)
Peter Pan (66, killed August 17, 1985)
Chainarong Khovananth (32, killed July 20, 1985)
Elyas Abowath (35, killed August 8, 1985)
William Carns (30, survived attempted murder, August 24, 1985)
Some sources suggest additional unconfirmed male victims, but these six are consistently documented. Exact counts vary due to incomplete gender breakdowns in some reports.”
I read Programed to kill about 5 yrs ago after I read Weird scenes inside the Canyon. McGowan also offers up the explanation for the serial killer phenomenon as as Michael Hoffman writes in "Secret societies and psychological warfare"
When you guys were talking about the psychologists who were hired to discredit victims of abuse I remembered that Jordan Peterson tried to make a career as an expert witness like that.
This is really good stuff, but I have a production note: Dimes is so quiet that it's hard to hear him without turning the volume up so high that your volume is at my pain threshold.
I love topics like this. This is why you need to review the 2003 documentary: 'The Net'- 'The Unabomber, LSD, And The Internet', by Lutz Dammbeck. I keep mentioning this because it is right in your wheelhouse. Absolutely fascinating film.
Two things off the bat: Charles Manson was born in 1934, silent generation, and you MUST do a review of 'Mandy'. A true masterpiece. Dark, forbidding and intense. A nightmare acid trip.
One interesting tidbit about Mansion made in this book is he was kinda old by the time of the murders in the 1960s.
(Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties)
Mansion was born in 1934. Which made it kinda hard to sell him as a heartthrob for teenage girls in the 1960s. Also, it didn’t help he was 5”2. (Girls like tall guys in general.)
“Here’s your serial killer’s profile including type of job, exact age, and address…oops did I say address? We don’t even know who it is yet, no way we’d have their address…”
Can't wait for everyone to see more of these, I have the best time speaking with Astral.
And I have the best time listening
He’s a pro
Good Stuff!
Thanks for doing this, it’s an ignored topic that needs more light shed on it.
Also we have a part 2
Awesome
Great episode.
I've read Programmed to Kill, but not the Chickenhawk book.
I'm pleased that you called out the way the author of PTK seems to present the Henry Lee Lucas story so uncritically. That was pretty egregious, in my mind I'm convinced Lucas was a serial liar, it was bad enough it cast a lot of the other material (which im not as familiar with as I am the Lucas case) into a doubtful light. I almost quit the book because of that.
Dimes coin rising!
This was fantastic! Thank you sir. But… you don’t wanna go past two hours cause you’ll lose the audience? Well, dang, my last episode was five hours. Maybe I should tone it down.
Great episode. You guys covered a lot of good stuff.
I think the cover to "Programmed to kill" is a victim of The Night Stalker Richard Ramirez.
I don’t think he killed any men, but maybe I’m wrong ?
According to Grok, The Night stalker killed 6 male victims.
“Richard Ramirez, the "Night Stalker," killed at least six male victims, based on detailed accounts:Vincent Zazzara (64, killed March 27, 1985)
Bill Doi (66, killed May 14, 1985)
Peter Pan (66, killed August 17, 1985)
Chainarong Khovananth (32, killed July 20, 1985)
Elyas Abowath (35, killed August 8, 1985)
William Carns (30, survived attempted murder, August 24, 1985)
Some sources suggest additional unconfirmed male victims, but these six are consistently documented. Exact counts vary due to incomplete gender breakdowns in some reports.”
Ah ok. Idk then maybe the cover is from him. I thought it says it in the book what it’s from
I read Programed to kill about 5 yrs ago after I read Weird scenes inside the Canyon. McGowan also offers up the explanation for the serial killer phenomenon as as Michael Hoffman writes in "Secret societies and psychological warfare"
"Alchemical processing of the group mind."
https://ia803408.us.archive.org/1/items/OperationMindControl0/Operation%20Mind%20Control_0.pdf
When you guys were talking about the psychologists who were hired to discredit victims of abuse I remembered that Jordan Peterson tried to make a career as an expert witness like that.
Holy shit I had no idea, that makes SO MUCH sense
Great episode!
This is really good stuff, but I have a production note: Dimes is so quiet that it's hard to hear him without turning the volume up so high that your volume is at my pain threshold.
There's an easy fix for this, run the audio through Audacity's 'compressor'. Set to look like this: https://files.catbox.moe/32ipq4.png
You may have to use Audacity 3.3.2 to see that dialog box.
I ran it through the compressor with those settings twice, then normalized it to -0.6 db, and it sounds pretty good to me now.
If this is all too hard, DM me and I'll figure a way to send you the file. Peace!
It’s fixed on the second episode
Play file with dynamic normalization:
mpv --af="lavfi=[speechnorm=e=6.25:r=0.0001:l=1]" "Astral Flight Simulation - MKULTRAmerica_ Programmed To Kill.mp3"
For creating modified files:
ffmpeg -i input.mp3 -filter:a "speechnorm=e=6.25:r=0.0001:l=1" output.mp3
I love topics like this. This is why you need to review the 2003 documentary: 'The Net'- 'The Unabomber, LSD, And The Internet', by Lutz Dammbeck. I keep mentioning this because it is right in your wheelhouse. Absolutely fascinating film.
Two things off the bat: Charles Manson was born in 1934, silent generation, and you MUST do a review of 'Mandy'. A true masterpiece. Dark, forbidding and intense. A nightmare acid trip.
One interesting tidbit about Mansion made in this book is he was kinda old by the time of the murders in the 1960s.
(Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties)
Mansion was born in 1934. Which made it kinda hard to sell him as a heartthrob for teenage girls in the 1960s. Also, it didn’t help he was 5”2. (Girls like tall guys in general.)
The Franklin scandal and the Finders cult cases would also be interesting to hear your take on.
We talk about it more in the next episode, both were definitely run by intelligence
“Here’s your serial killer’s profile including type of job, exact age, and address…oops did I say address? We don’t even know who it is yet, no way we’d have their address…”
Good talk. 1st season of Chris Carter's Millennium had a similar theme to PTK re: the origin of serial killers, as far back as 1997.