On subject of ILL MANNERED motherfuckkers and SHE MALES:
I got an OPEN DOOR policy - and I am the EASIEST Whiteboy to locate and get an audience (face 2 face with) on this planet.
Talking shit, dropping PERSONAL disrespect on platforms like this is SHE-MALE behavior. You OUT yourself as a she-male when you do it.
If you got genuine BEEF with somebody in this sphere, HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS. Oh its NOT worth it? OK - then it ain't that important, and again, you're being a SHE MALE.
This is a MAN'S concern and a MAN'S commitment. You're NOT fit to be among MEN if you're gonna be a SHE MALE.
Pete Quinones looks like Eliezer Yudkowsky and even sounds a little like him too. He says he grew up in NYC. He also bears a resemblance to Mike Benz. Not trying to be a groyper fag but someone should ask him about his lineage.
Maybe if you're gonna talk shit, you should have the balls to say that to his FACE. Oh that's right, you're a BITCH who talks mean girl shit on the internet so you'd never do that. Where do you faggots COME from exactly? Are you just part of the trailer trash demographic who grew up fatherless and thus learned to emulate your slut mommy without any countervailing influence on your early development?
You're another one of these internet she-males that needs his precious little face broken to learn some basic manners and understand there are consequences for DISRESPECT.
Shut the fuck up old washed up junkie, all you do is talk on the Internet, why don't you go hold your proverbial cup out and e-beg some more.
He looks vaguely Jewish, and none of you can deny that. If that's his real DNA makeup that he posted below with the 1.2% Ashk, that suggests a somewhat recent coupling with a member of that group in his genealogy so my hunch isn't that far off.
Kinda just wondering out loud, see if anyone else sees what I am seeing. the resemblances between him and both Eliezer Yudkowsky and Mike Benz and the similar mannerisms makes my ears prick up. It should be a question for him IMO.
I'd really like to see someone say these 3 men don't look very similar. Build, face, sometimes even voice, sometimes even ideology. It should make you think for a second
I ignored all the red flags all this time: born in NYC, remigrated back to the south, Baptist, runs with a gang (ogc), airways asking me for five bucks etc
First time listener and commenter. I'm a fan of Pete & Thomas, so they brought me here. Forgive me if you've spoken on it previously, but I feel as though there's a problem on the right with a glutt of pseudoaristocrats. We've got plenty of rich guys and almost zero noblesse oblige.
It's get old to have to listen to this dipshit Thomas try to use big words to sound smart. People like him sound just like the retarded libertarians, they both think they have some super special inside knowledge that no one outside of their tiny clique would be smart enough to understand.
Except you're the dipshit here and Thomas is very open about having former diplomats, politicians, and intelligence creatures as either family friends or acquaintances.
National Socialism in the solution and Race is the rallying point. Absolutely. We can reclaim it from the propaganda social engineering BS, socially reclaim academia, philosophy, political science, etc.
I’m mostly just joking, I’m a very sarcastic person. I will say I have some reservations about some of the things said about blacks on this episode, and a few others if I’m being frank. Obviously I DON’T think the speakers are saying anything haphazardly which is…even more odd. I chalk it up to possibly not having worked it out as you all have. At the end of the day I’m not in the vanguard anyhow so I guess the point is moot. Thanks for the episode though.
No I fully appreciate all of you guys. I just find a strange dichotomy between “they’re here, they’re not going anywhere and you have to deal with it” and “if we don’t deport these people our nation is 100% done”. Not exactly sure how that works itself out, sounds strange. I’ll leave it at that. I’m in no way trying to give anyone a hard time. I do very much appreciate everyone, it’s just been something that’s stuck out.✌🏻
I get it. I made a typo. I DONT agree on race. But all my “solutions” are pie in the sky fantasy. Literally all we can do is throw them all in prison we’re kinda fucked
If people came here they can also leave here. These people literally 10x’d African population to invade us with, anything is possible. Something I’ve always wondered since hearing Stormy for the first time was…why do we not have any billionaire funded think tanks? Basically relegated to twitter and Substack hoping some talking point sticks, why are there no serious forums working tirelessly on publishing solutions? Why are race traitors and trannies at Manhattan getting W’s when guys in this orbit could destroy the entire regime within 12 months? If there was a formal and respectable place to push the solutions into the conversation so much could be accomplished. A think tank could hold private art expos(we do this my industry) to network and create culture…more importantly bonds. Idk…seems like something pretty useful considering we’re in the “philosophy stage” and finding what define us. Also seems like something with very low operating costs considering how influential they could be. A new age “book club” if you will. Prim and proper but very serious people crafting and shaping the new man…(I concede I very much could be unaware of something like this already existing so apologies if so.)
The question then being: 'how compatible are your politics with those of the average racist billionaire?'
Immigration-restriction means wage-pressures and wage-pressures mean inflation, and inflation means the gradual dissolution of accumulated financial wealth.
The argument is not that their interests are our interests the argument is that we can find an audience with them and possible enfranchisement by appealing to them
Guest referring to the Gilded Age as 'the Golden Age' and calling it driven by state-led investment is clown. That wasn't state-led investment it was subsidy for privately-owned federally-chartered corporations with land grants and bond-issuances. The so-called 'Golden Age' was in fact a radical restructuring of the American economy and not fondly remembered by most who lived through it save for the Morgan/Rockefeller barons and upper-middle professionals. It was called 'Gilded' because it was impressive at first glance but underneath the surface was incredible politico-economic strife and turmoil.
Listening to Robber Barons Who Tried to Save America Ep. 1 and could not imagine being less impressed. 'Stormy Waters' managed to distill the worst elements of Bircherism from whatever genuine political consciousness it may have had. This person has committed so many unforced errors under such a pretense of authority that I'm skeptical that their web presence is organic.
Example #1: "Per Capita GDP grew rapidly in Gilded Age, thus the Robber Barons 'shared the wealth'. (6:48)" That's not how economic growth or productivity-growth works.
Example #2: "Closet-leftists like Antony Sutton... (7:50)" Ridiculous claim. Sutton was a goldbug and ideological anti-collectivist in all his works.
Example #3: "Largest contributors to Dearborn Independent were JP Morgan Jr. and JD Rockefeller (~14:00)" Source for these claims?
Example #4: "The US became the richest civilization in the world from the Civil War to WW1 and nobody talks about it? How did it happen? Who did it? It's been virtually erased. (~17:00)" Lots of people do in fact talk about this.
Example #5: "JP Morgan said that people could only get a loan from him if they had good character. (~22:00)" This was during the Pujo Committee hearings when Congressional investors were trying to establish the facts of Morgan's economic power over the US economy, and Morgan repeatedly embarassed himself with quotes such as these, which tried to insinuate that there was no such thing as systemic economic power or market-forces.
Example #6: "You had to be in the business of banking for a hundred years to be able to enter the field of banking (~25:00)' Presumably Stormy Waters means commercial banking here as opposed to investment banking. The JP Morgan banking house was established during the Civil War. His father Junius was closely associated with George Peabody, who was himself closely associated with Jewish London banks. Also, Commercial Banks were all corporations rather than partnerships. There is no such thing as a commercial banking partnership.
Example #7: "To a man, the WASP Aristocracy were in Drexel Burnham Lambert, Brown Brothers, or Morgan & Co. ..." (26:41). Drexel Burnham Lambert (DBL) didn't even exist until the 1970s. Drexel & Co. (Philadelphia WASP) was bought out by Burnham (Jewish) in 1973, and the resulting Drexel Burnham merged with Lambert (Jewish) in 1976.
(Last One) Example #8: "JP Morgan's number 1 rival in the world was Yakob (?? Nathan? Jacob is born in 1937) Rothschild (~59:00)" Blatantly untrue. The Gold-Loan of 1895 was a Morgan-Rothschild joint-venture and, as the Primary Dealer for UK Sovereign Debt, Rothschild was one of Morgan's most important business partners. Morgan's transatlantic bond business was a very important piece of his business. August Belmont and Belmont Jr. were practically adopted members of the Morgan family. It was called 'the Bond Syndicate' at the time. This person doesn't understand at all what he's talking about in re: to the Morgan Gold-Loan of 1895.
It just kind of goes on like this, I'm not gonna keep going. Did Morgan get bumped down to a station below the Schiff-Rockefeller syndicate? Yes. Was he the would-be based fascist banker savior of America? Lol. Childish, economically-illiterate, ahistorical worldview. The constant swearing and boiling emotionalism give it away. Sources would also be nice. Either you're intentionally misleading people or are yourself being misled. I really hope nobody's listening to this and not taking it with a grain of salt.
So, not only are your responses reddit bro tier BS, you're also followers of confirmed controlled opposition gamma males such as Rurik Skywalker and Neoliberal Feudalism.
I’ve personally encountered some splits in the right sphere, particularly between the trad/NRx wing, the WN/race realist wing, and the Fash/Ns wing. I think these (relatively minor) splits are going to become even bigger and more pounced as the right gains more cultural power and relevancy.
The big issue is CONSERVATIVE INC types (and their allies who are pining for REGIME recognition, legitimacy) think they can dictate TERMS to us and get presumptuous.
I get more HATE from (allegedly) ‘‘RW’’ fools who claim I/WE are guilty of, ‘‘BAD OPTICS’’ or are somehow representing a non-existent, shared platform incorrectly.
CONSERVATIVES aren’t shit to us - they have NOTHING to do with US. They’re as much our OPPS as pro-REGIME liberals are. They ARE liberals - they just have certain policy priorities that put them at odds with the RULING coalition (immigration policy, social engineering overreach, etc.)
Plus many of them are just ignorant and/or LIARS - shit like the UKRAINE WAR and the issue of PALESTINE demonstrates that. There is only GLOBALISM and the RESISTANCE. NOT backing the RESISTANCE or claiming to, ‘‘not care’’ about it would be like a self-styled ‘‘dissident’’ behind the wall in 1980 saying he, ‘‘didn’t care’’ about SOLIDARITY or the ISLAMIC resistance to Communism in Afghanistan. These people aren’t in the GAME - they’re PRO-REGIME actors who are playing at being RESISTANCE elements.
At the risk of being divisive, I disagree with Stormy’s assessment. I think it’s a waste of time to try to appeal to the “finance and tech bros”, unless you are already in that world. I would consider it far more productive to try and cultivate actual radical from working peoples, small business owners, and veterans than to try and pitch right wing radicalism to Wall Street bros and academia. At the end of the day we wean t to fundamentally change the current American society, not return it to an inchoate form, at least I do.
I'm on my second listen right now. This is an important episode because these issues never get discussed honestly in public. It is pretty difficult for me to relate the opinions expressed to my everyday life. Shouldn't be, but it is. Could you maybe just boil it down to the pure dope and inject it into my brain?
On subject of ILL MANNERED motherfuckkers and SHE MALES:
I got an OPEN DOOR policy - and I am the EASIEST Whiteboy to locate and get an audience (face 2 face with) on this planet.
Talking shit, dropping PERSONAL disrespect on platforms like this is SHE-MALE behavior. You OUT yourself as a she-male when you do it.
If you got genuine BEEF with somebody in this sphere, HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS. Oh its NOT worth it? OK - then it ain't that important, and again, you're being a SHE MALE.
This is a MAN'S concern and a MAN'S commitment. You're NOT fit to be among MEN if you're gonna be a SHE MALE.
THINK before you speak/type some dumb shit.
*END OF SERMON*
Carry on.
Liked the episode but the comments over all look too much like something in the Newsbreak app. They suck. Looking forward to the next episode.
Thank you for dropping this while im at work to listen to!
Forget about funding us. How about rebuilding industry? Stop with worshiping FIRE and make things in the real world.
Another banger. Thanks Astral and crew!
A one hour inquisition? That's only the introductory 7homas portion
Stormy lost connection and me and Pete were beat
Pete Quinones looks like Eliezer Yudkowsky and even sounds a little like him too. He says he grew up in NYC. He also bears a resemblance to Mike Benz. Not trying to be a groyper fag but someone should ask him about his lineage.
Maybe if you're gonna talk shit, you should have the balls to say that to his FACE. Oh that's right, you're a BITCH who talks mean girl shit on the internet so you'd never do that. Where do you faggots COME from exactly? Are you just part of the trailer trash demographic who grew up fatherless and thus learned to emulate your slut mommy without any countervailing influence on your early development?
You're another one of these internet she-males that needs his precious little face broken to learn some basic manners and understand there are consequences for DISRESPECT.
Shut the fuck up old washed up junkie, all you do is talk on the Internet, why don't you go hold your proverbial cup out and e-beg some more.
He looks vaguely Jewish, and none of you can deny that. If that's his real DNA makeup that he posted below with the 1.2% Ashk, that suggests a somewhat recent coupling with a member of that group in his genealogy so my hunch isn't that far off.
You seem upset, Ma'am. Heavy flow this month?
Be seein you face to face real soon. I'ma enjoy that.
You calling him Jewish ?
Pete has been pretty clear and open on his origins/heritage
Kinda just wondering out loud, see if anyone else sees what I am seeing. the resemblances between him and both Eliezer Yudkowsky and Mike Benz and the similar mannerisms makes my ears prick up. It should be a question for him IMO.
Maybe it’s your cock pricking up bc you’re a faggot
Lol ok buddy, pretend your eyes decieve you, them niggas look alike🤷♂️
I'd really like to see someone say these 3 men don't look very similar. Build, face, sometimes even voice, sometimes even ideology. It should make you think for a second
Pete is SPANISH (from Spain) and POLISH, Mr. Rob Knobgobbler
They'll never stop. Makes you wonder how they manage to get through a single day IRL. If I thought that way, I could not do it.
Cheap shot
You are 100% black, Pete
Word
I ignored all the red flags all this time: born in NYC, remigrated back to the south, Baptist, runs with a gang (ogc), airways asking me for five bucks etc
Chimp out incoming
He's a dago cradle Catholic of some type
I'm so ashamed that anyone has to do this. What a disgraceful state of affairs. Most sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us!
Nigger tier thinking
First time listener and commenter. I'm a fan of Pete & Thomas, so they brought me here. Forgive me if you've spoken on it previously, but I feel as though there's a problem on the right with a glutt of pseudoaristocrats. We've got plenty of rich guys and almost zero noblesse oblige.
This. ^
It's get old to have to listen to this dipshit Thomas try to use big words to sound smart. People like him sound just like the retarded libertarians, they both think they have some super special inside knowledge that no one outside of their tiny clique would be smart enough to understand.
Except you're the dipshit here and Thomas is very open about having former diplomats, politicians, and intelligence creatures as either family friends or acquaintances.
National Socialism in the solution and Race is the rallying point. Absolutely. We can reclaim it from the propaganda social engineering BS, socially reclaim academia, philosophy, political science, etc.
Damn, am I too racist to be listening to this?
No don’t worry. I stay silent but I’m with you.
I’m mostly just joking, I’m a very sarcastic person. I will say I have some reservations about some of the things said about blacks on this episode, and a few others if I’m being frank. Obviously I DON’T think the speakers are saying anything haphazardly which is…even more odd. I chalk it up to possibly not having worked it out as you all have. At the end of the day I’m not in the vanguard anyhow so I guess the point is moot. Thanks for the episode though.
I mean we all have our own opinions and I endorse these guys 100% but my opinions on race are the same but not here to argue that really.
No I fully appreciate all of you guys. I just find a strange dichotomy between “they’re here, they’re not going anywhere and you have to deal with it” and “if we don’t deport these people our nation is 100% done”. Not exactly sure how that works itself out, sounds strange. I’ll leave it at that. I’m in no way trying to give anyone a hard time. I do very much appreciate everyone, it’s just been something that’s stuck out.✌🏻
I get it. I made a typo. I DONT agree on race. But all my “solutions” are pie in the sky fantasy. Literally all we can do is throw them all in prison we’re kinda fucked
If people came here they can also leave here. These people literally 10x’d African population to invade us with, anything is possible. Something I’ve always wondered since hearing Stormy for the first time was…why do we not have any billionaire funded think tanks? Basically relegated to twitter and Substack hoping some talking point sticks, why are there no serious forums working tirelessly on publishing solutions? Why are race traitors and trannies at Manhattan getting W’s when guys in this orbit could destroy the entire regime within 12 months? If there was a formal and respectable place to push the solutions into the conversation so much could be accomplished. A think tank could hold private art expos(we do this my industry) to network and create culture…more importantly bonds. Idk…seems like something pretty useful considering we’re in the “philosophy stage” and finding what define us. Also seems like something with very low operating costs considering how influential they could be. A new age “book club” if you will. Prim and proper but very serious people crafting and shaping the new man…(I concede I very much could be unaware of something like this already existing so apologies if so.)
"You can just be a billionaire and be racist."
Skeptical in the extreme that one can 'just be' a billionaire.
His point is that billionaires are racist too
The question then being: 'how compatible are your politics with those of the average racist billionaire?'
Immigration-restriction means wage-pressures and wage-pressures mean inflation, and inflation means the gradual dissolution of accumulated financial wealth.
The argument is not that their interests are our interests the argument is that we can find an audience with them and possible enfranchisement by appealing to them
Guest referring to the Gilded Age as 'the Golden Age' and calling it driven by state-led investment is clown. That wasn't state-led investment it was subsidy for privately-owned federally-chartered corporations with land grants and bond-issuances. The so-called 'Golden Age' was in fact a radical restructuring of the American economy and not fondly remembered by most who lived through it save for the Morgan/Rockefeller barons and upper-middle professionals. It was called 'Gilded' because it was impressive at first glance but underneath the surface was incredible politico-economic strife and turmoil.
You gotta listen to Stormy’s several episodes on Pete’s show about this era
Listening to Robber Barons Who Tried to Save America Ep. 1 and could not imagine being less impressed. 'Stormy Waters' managed to distill the worst elements of Bircherism from whatever genuine political consciousness it may have had. This person has committed so many unforced errors under such a pretense of authority that I'm skeptical that their web presence is organic.
Example #1: "Per Capita GDP grew rapidly in Gilded Age, thus the Robber Barons 'shared the wealth'. (6:48)" That's not how economic growth or productivity-growth works.
Example #2: "Closet-leftists like Antony Sutton... (7:50)" Ridiculous claim. Sutton was a goldbug and ideological anti-collectivist in all his works.
Example #3: "Largest contributors to Dearborn Independent were JP Morgan Jr. and JD Rockefeller (~14:00)" Source for these claims?
Example #4: "The US became the richest civilization in the world from the Civil War to WW1 and nobody talks about it? How did it happen? Who did it? It's been virtually erased. (~17:00)" Lots of people do in fact talk about this.
Example #5: "JP Morgan said that people could only get a loan from him if they had good character. (~22:00)" This was during the Pujo Committee hearings when Congressional investors were trying to establish the facts of Morgan's economic power over the US economy, and Morgan repeatedly embarassed himself with quotes such as these, which tried to insinuate that there was no such thing as systemic economic power or market-forces.
Example #6: "You had to be in the business of banking for a hundred years to be able to enter the field of banking (~25:00)' Presumably Stormy Waters means commercial banking here as opposed to investment banking. The JP Morgan banking house was established during the Civil War. His father Junius was closely associated with George Peabody, who was himself closely associated with Jewish London banks. Also, Commercial Banks were all corporations rather than partnerships. There is no such thing as a commercial banking partnership.
Example #7: "To a man, the WASP Aristocracy were in Drexel Burnham Lambert, Brown Brothers, or Morgan & Co. ..." (26:41). Drexel Burnham Lambert (DBL) didn't even exist until the 1970s. Drexel & Co. (Philadelphia WASP) was bought out by Burnham (Jewish) in 1973, and the resulting Drexel Burnham merged with Lambert (Jewish) in 1976.
(Last One) Example #8: "JP Morgan's number 1 rival in the world was Yakob (?? Nathan? Jacob is born in 1937) Rothschild (~59:00)" Blatantly untrue. The Gold-Loan of 1895 was a Morgan-Rothschild joint-venture and, as the Primary Dealer for UK Sovereign Debt, Rothschild was one of Morgan's most important business partners. Morgan's transatlantic bond business was a very important piece of his business. August Belmont and Belmont Jr. were practically adopted members of the Morgan family. It was called 'the Bond Syndicate' at the time. This person doesn't understand at all what he's talking about in re: to the Morgan Gold-Loan of 1895.
It just kind of goes on like this, I'm not gonna keep going. Did Morgan get bumped down to a station below the Schiff-Rockefeller syndicate? Yes. Was he the would-be based fascist banker savior of America? Lol. Childish, economically-illiterate, ahistorical worldview. The constant swearing and boiling emotionalism give it away. Sources would also be nice. Either you're intentionally misleading people or are yourself being misled. I really hope nobody's listening to this and not taking it with a grain of salt.
So, not only are your responses reddit bro tier BS, you're also followers of confirmed controlled opposition gamma males such as Rurik Skywalker and Neoliberal Feudalism.
So glad that no one listens to you and them
Important topic. Thanks for covering this.
I’ve personally encountered some splits in the right sphere, particularly between the trad/NRx wing, the WN/race realist wing, and the Fash/Ns wing. I think these (relatively minor) splits are going to become even bigger and more pounced as the right gains more cultural power and relevancy.
They’re already big splits
The big issue is CONSERVATIVE INC types (and their allies who are pining for REGIME recognition, legitimacy) think they can dictate TERMS to us and get presumptuous.
I get more HATE from (allegedly) ‘‘RW’’ fools who claim I/WE are guilty of, ‘‘BAD OPTICS’’ or are somehow representing a non-existent, shared platform incorrectly.
CONSERVATIVES aren’t shit to us - they have NOTHING to do with US. They’re as much our OPPS as pro-REGIME liberals are. They ARE liberals - they just have certain policy priorities that put them at odds with the RULING coalition (immigration policy, social engineering overreach, etc.)
Plus many of them are just ignorant and/or LIARS - shit like the UKRAINE WAR and the issue of PALESTINE demonstrates that. There is only GLOBALISM and the RESISTANCE. NOT backing the RESISTANCE or claiming to, ‘‘not care’’ about it would be like a self-styled ‘‘dissident’’ behind the wall in 1980 saying he, ‘‘didn’t care’’ about SOLIDARITY or the ISLAMIC resistance to Communism in Afghanistan. These people aren’t in the GAME - they’re PRO-REGIME actors who are playing at being RESISTANCE elements.
At the risk of being divisive, I disagree with Stormy’s assessment. I think it’s a waste of time to try to appeal to the “finance and tech bros”, unless you are already in that world. I would consider it far more productive to try and cultivate actual radical from working peoples, small business owners, and veterans than to try and pitch right wing radicalism to Wall Street bros and academia. At the end of the day we wean t to fundamentally change the current American society, not return it to an inchoate form, at least I do.
I'm on my second listen right now. This is an important episode because these issues never get discussed honestly in public. It is pretty difficult for me to relate the opinions expressed to my everyday life. Shouldn't be, but it is. Could you maybe just boil it down to the pure dope and inject it into my brain?
Though short, this was a great episode. Can't wait to hear the post OGC pickup.
Thanks y'all!