Thanks for recording this 2 part interview. As a casual gamer, gamergate was my first clue that that something in culture and discourse was going sideways. This is a great combination of reliving things I witnessed and having gaps in my knowledge filled in. What is this dudes X handle?
GamerGate was truly ground zero for the battle over what we now call “woke”, “DEI”, etc. in hobbies and nerd culture. The “I just want to game” preceded “I just want to grill” by almost a decade.
Also, Sargon (Carl Benjamin) had been making anti-feminist videos before GamerGate. In fact, I only witnessed the outbreak of GG in 2014 because I had already been following Sargon and a few others in that sphere. It’s the only time in my life where I’ve watched the birth of a movement or internet moment. I tend to find out about these things very late.
Concerning the comic book version of GG - They adopted the title but with a twist - Comics Gate, with the primary figure being DC Comics artist Ethan Van Sciver (ComicArtistProSecrets). He was ran out for being pro Trump and vocal about it, and not disavowing his association to Richard C Meyer (YaBoiZack), a popular YouTuber who was calling out the "SJW" influence he was noticing in comics.
There were also a number of cancellations of other comic pros for sexual assault accusations, but they were not friends with Ethan Van Sciver. Ethan ended up becoming a popular YouTuber and has successfully crowd-funded many of his own comics and helps promote other artists who've been cancelled.
This topic has been so good. It’s almost beautiful how the gamers initially lost the battle to bringing down a juggernaut of a game like Concord in total flames. I think this whole spirit of defiance to the established order has it’s inception in gamer gate.
Funnily enough the "Gamers are dead. You're just consumer" slight has come full circle. We can just not buy (or PC masteracers can just pirate) their shit.
As a 2003 Gen Z kid what I remember most about gamergate was the innocence to it. Gamergate was my entry to politics as a middle schooler with no online supervision.
I want Remus on once a month to emphatically and passionately explain some random internet subculture topic
Thanks for recording this 2 part interview. As a casual gamer, gamergate was my first clue that that something in culture and discourse was going sideways. This is a great combination of reliving things I witnessed and having gaps in my knowledge filled in. What is this dudes X handle?
It’s in the show notes with a link
GamerGate was truly ground zero for the battle over what we now call “woke”, “DEI”, etc. in hobbies and nerd culture. The “I just want to game” preceded “I just want to grill” by almost a decade.
Also, Sargon (Carl Benjamin) had been making anti-feminist videos before GamerGate. In fact, I only witnessed the outbreak of GG in 2014 because I had already been following Sargon and a few others in that sphere. It’s the only time in my life where I’ve watched the birth of a movement or internet moment. I tend to find out about these things very late.
I hope Battle Brothers makes the list of future game dedicated episodes. Great game.
Concerning the comic book version of GG - They adopted the title but with a twist - Comics Gate, with the primary figure being DC Comics artist Ethan Van Sciver (ComicArtistProSecrets). He was ran out for being pro Trump and vocal about it, and not disavowing his association to Richard C Meyer (YaBoiZack), a popular YouTuber who was calling out the "SJW" influence he was noticing in comics.
There were also a number of cancellations of other comic pros for sexual assault accusations, but they were not friends with Ethan Van Sciver. Ethan ended up becoming a popular YouTuber and has successfully crowd-funded many of his own comics and helps promote other artists who've been cancelled.
Thanks for this follow up. It was too much to get into think did not know all of these details!
Yeah, it’s crazy how deep this insanity runs through popular culture.
Did you guys see American Krogan’s video on Mass Effect? It’s really good and available on Odyssee
This topic has been so good. It’s almost beautiful how the gamers initially lost the battle to bringing down a juggernaut of a game like Concord in total flames. I think this whole spirit of defiance to the established order has it’s inception in gamer gate.
Funnily enough the "Gamers are dead. You're just consumer" slight has come full circle. We can just not buy (or PC masteracers can just pirate) their shit.
As a 2003 Gen Z kid what I remember most about gamergate was the innocence to it. Gamergate was my entry to politics as a middle schooler with no online supervision.
Adam Baldwin was 'Animal Mother' in Full Metal Jacket first, before Firefly.
Yeah he’s awesome but that is less relevant to the whole story, firefly is a nerd fandom favorite